[Vbsl] Automatic Timing Systems - Timecards

[janelyce1]

I think making the log is a much safer bet then giving them the slips.  We 
did a log, just as in USA swimming and it was easy and made it easy to 
verify that DQ's were accurate on the results before we posted them.  I 
would be leary of DQ slips that get separated from lane/time sheets- sounds 
like a good way to get things lost.

Just my opinion!

Jane Glasgow
GBSRC
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Nicholas, CPAC Team Rep" <cpac at cpacswim.com>
To: "Gill III, William (GE Infra, Water)" <Bill.Gill at ge.com>; "Squires, 
John" <John.P.Squires at uscg.mil>; <vbsl at vbsl.net>
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Vbsl] Automatic Timing Systems - Timecards


>I am going to enter the DQs in MM, but give the opposing teams their slips
> to take with them...I don't want to create another log I have to keep...I
> will make sure they bring their slips to the divisional meeting...Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gill III, William (GE Infra, Water)" <Bill.Gill at ge.com>
> To: "Squires, John" <John.P.Squires at uscg.mil>; <vbsl at vbsl.net>
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 1:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vbsl] Automatic Timing Systems - Timecards
>
>
>> VBSL Teams:
>>
>> Good Luck to everyone tomorrow.  It should be a great morning for
>> swimming.
>>
>> Following up on John's e-mail below I have spoken to him about the DQ 
>> slip
>> issue.  Traditionally with the time cards we attach the DQ slips to the
>> card and both teams take theirs at the end of the meet.  Using the lane
>> sheets, the host team will maintain the lane sheets and bring them with
>> them to the Divisional seeding meeting.  DQ slips will be attached to the
>> lane sheets.
>>
>> In order to give the coaches a record of the DQs for their swimmers, I
>> recommend using the Disqualification Log that we use in USA swimming
>> meets.  If you have a copier at your pool I recommend maintaining one log
>> and making a copy at the end of the meet for the visiting team.  If you 
>> do
>> not have a copier, keep separate logs for each team.  By using the log 
>> the
>> coaches will have a record to use to explain what the DQ infractions were
>> to their swimmers.
>>
>> Here is the link:
>> http://www.virginiaswimming.org/Officials/Forms/DQ%20Log%20(VSI).pdf
>> Kevin, will you please post this on the Website.
>>
>> Thanks and Good Luck,
>>
>> Bill Gill
>> Little Neck Swim Team
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: vbsl-bounces at vbsl.net [mailto:vbsl-bounces at vbsl.net]On Behalf Of
>> Squires, John
>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:38 AM
>> To: vbsl at vbsl.net
>> Subject: [Vbsl] Automatic Timing Systems - Timecards
>> Importance: High
>>
>>
>> All,
>>  Some questions have arisen about if timecards are needed when an
>> automatic timing system is used.  Our rule book states that all meets 
>> will
>> be run with timecards. With the advent of electronic timing and in an
>> effort to improve the way swim meets are run the executive board will
>> allow the following exception to the time card rule:
>>
>> Please pass this information to all officials and referee's:
>> The following exception to the VBSL rule book has been approved by the
>> executive board:
>> Any meet run with an electronic timing system may use lane sheets instead
>> time cards for the 2007 season. This will be for this season only as a
>> trial for possible rule changes for next year.  The following procedures
>> will be strictly adhered to:
>> Manual times for swimmers must be recorded on the sheet.
>> No swims (NS) must be noted on the sheets by the timers.
>> DQ slips must be retained, and if a swimmer is DQ'd the time
>> scorer(s) must note the DQ on the lane sheet.
>> Lane sheets should be printed as accurately as possible (scratches ect
>> included).
>> All DQ slips, lane sheets, timing system print outs, and any electronic
>> files must be retained and be presented for use during the divisional
>> seeding meeting.  They may also be used for research involving permanent
>> rule changes.
>> Timers will verify relay names and swimmer names and make any annotations
>> on the lane sheet.  Time scorers and meet manager operators will note
>> those changes make appropriate entries into TM.
>> Any exceptions or modifications to the above must be approved by the
>> executive board.
>>
>> I will be out of town at another meet starting tonight.  You can reach me
>> via cell phone at 757-438-6424 if you have any questions or problems.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> John Squires
>> VBSL President
>>
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